1.First of all I could care less about MY Credibility with you people because in your eyes I never had any, you began bashing me right off the bat, never once listened to one word I said, therefore making me continue to repeat myself over and over and over again...

2.You actually are like a bunch of Wild Dogs in a Pack attacking a defensless animal by pushing it into a corner then tearing it to pieces!!

3.I have Not One whit of RESPECT for you!!

4.NoDogYet, if I were just put on that prescription, then that description would apply, however, I have been on the same dosage of Vicodin for 13 years (call some of your friend who may have knowledge of pain meds if they are on them) after such a long time period on the same dosage of a medication, it is like taking 1 tylenol, it has NO effect on me whatsoever, and No effect on my Chronic pain either!!

5.Let's get this out of the way right now because I am soooooo sick of hearing the BS, I am not a BYB, as you all are. Who gives you your orders?? YOU do!! I just had my first litter of puppies, with a person who had more experience than I, so that makes me the fall guy?? I think NOT!! Plus No-one has the right to tell another person how to sell their puppies, and that's NOT being YOB!! So abbylynne, take your snobbishness and stuff it OK...

6.This HUUUUUUUUUge thing about OFA, I never said that Kiasong passed OFA, I said she Passed with my Vet and that we were sending in the results to OFA, However Sabastian isn't listed anywhere on the OFA website, OH but that's OK according to you, but wrong for my Dam???

7.You People are working two or more angles here, which is completely unfair, and unethical, since you are into ethical!!

8.abbylynne, the people that bought puppies from me are in contact with me all the time, the buyer of Geihsa's Love just sent 25 pics of her taken after her first grooming, and she is very beautiful, I will post them on my photobucket site sometime tonight if I have time!!

9.The buyer of Shiing just emailed me for information as to whether or not she wants to breed her, because she has to make up her mind soon, as it is better to have them fixed by 6 months age, so I told her what the heat cycle was like because she wanted know, then after that pointed her to go to AKC and download their "Guide to Breeding Your Dog"!! But I forgot, you all say I am soooo irresposible!!

10.Wherever you got that I am onto the next litter I do not know, because I expressly stated Twice or more "that Kiasong had just gone through a heat cycle and that I did not Breed her & that I will not do so until all her testing is done"!

11.ALL of you know this, or should know this if you are indeed experienced Breeders, that no-one should be sticking their hands anywhere near newborn puppies unles the Bitch allows it, therefore "Kiasong has (until then) never bitten anyone, and since then, never bitten anyone, and most likely will never bite anyone again, she is a very loveable, socialized Akita..." An Attack is something completely different, as soon as my mother withdrew, she stopped, she did not come out of the whelping box and chase my mother down and attack her, neither has she ever attacked any human being!! She is not and has not been raised to be an attack dog...So go take a Valium and loosen your tightly wound brains, as it seems you do not have any, and cannot tell the difference between a dog protecting her newborn puppies and an attack dog!!

12.Your stupidity ruffian just irritates me to no end, I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF HAVING PUPPIES EVERY THREE MONTHS AND HAVE ALREADY STATED THAT SEVERAL TIMES, DO YOU HAVE EYES??? Plus my intentions are none of your business...

13. I would love to have Eileen hand those documents to the judge, then explain to the judge why she did not give them to ME before, during, or even after breeding when I asked her for them and the answer she will give him, and the FACT, that she supplied such documents to two of my buyers when they threatened her!! Of which I will take the documents to court..DO YOU REALLY THINK A JUDGE IS THAT STUPID???

14."I hope she also sues you for libel, slander, defamation of character, and pain and anguish" She has not suffered one whit, she comes on here makes a few posts, you all think she is God, and suck it all up!! I have copied every single thread in here said to me and done to me, including that my children were called dogs and my granchildren puppies and kept it, perhaps I will sue you!! Because you simply are not getting things straight!!

15. For the Milionth time, I never said I never planned on showing my Akita, I said I could not do so myself, I would have to have a handler do it for me, God you people just do not READ, READ, READ!! You are ALL just tooo full of yourselves to do so!!

16.It is not ME whom refuses to listen, it is you whom refuses to listen to what I am saying, because you are all know-it-alls!! Too full of yourselves to listen to anyone else!!

17.UKC Championship papers asked and answered, go back to the other post and learn to read...

18.Sorry abbylynn you have this backwards "katori - I think the stud owner made a few mistakes she's regretting because she was assuming the OP was an honest person and she was trying to be nice..." I was the one that was regretting the mistake I made because I thought she was honest and upfront and provideing me all the information she was supposed to provide me with, I was being nice to her, in calling her and emailing her to get here on time to make her pickof the litter, she ignored it, came up with excuses, therefore she Breached her Own Contract, and that is not MY FAULT!! A Contract is a Contract!!

19. So is my writing Ruffian, if you had taken the time to read it, otherwise you wouldn't have come up with all of these accusations and assumptions!! My boyfriend and my friends have told me not to even bother with you people, because you really aren't crap, and Eileens only purpose on comming here was to use you, now I am the one laughing, because it is funnier than heck...

20.ShadoMoon, No you cannot get information, I have tried and tried...you say "Also you can use his NAME to search on the OFA database. Hmm and maybe look at his pedigree and contact say... breeders of dogs that are behind him to get information?
Another clue is if you saw his UKC pedigree/championship paper than you know he is a champion, you dont NEED his information to register pups with UKC. As long as you have the AKC paper, the puppy owners can register with UKC."

He is NOT listed in the OFA Database, I tried 3 times to get info from there on him and he doesn't exist in their database...I also contacted his breeder, they emailed me back stating that they would not give me any information and to not contact them again, that if I wanted his UKC Pedigree to go and buy it, well you cannot buy it without his UKC Numbers which Eileen keeps hidden...if you do not believe me, go to Http***************and you will see UKC CH TKO's Lyrics By Sabastian, with no numbers...you will also find him on her own site www.***************with No UKC Numbers, neither has she or will she give me the numbers or a copy of the UKC Pedigree!!

21.stdogz I do believe this is defimation of character "But FYI - don't buy a puppy from a breeder who has an Akita named Kiasong" Something that I did not do to Eileen!!

22. I don't know what cliff notes you are talking about wolf256wolf, But that is just a bunch of BS entirely!! And this board will be lucky if I don't take them to court over this, because they don't seem to get theings straight, even when it is put right in front of their faces...

23. Eileen could care less about you people, but I will update you after court KK...










***Edited By: lpn169 on 1/14/2008 12:55:12 AM***
Reason: No websites permitted...you know this by now,

Someones panties are in a bunch.

I think its time you step away from the computer.

I certainly hope NO ONE responds to this latest rant by Siren. ... It isn't worth anyone's time nor will it accomplish anything. Enough said from this new member.

If in fact you were complacent with the turn out of your previous post, you wouldn't have taken the time to write yet another despondent novel.
What I find funny, is that you whine to people in your everyday life about what a diverse group of people who think you are a moron over the Internet have to say about you, your personality must be even more irritating in person if this is truly the case.

It's obnoxious that you say you think it is laughable (if this woman truly is the horrible breeder you are desperately hoping everyone will see) because if you had any kind of morals, your only reason for all of the retardation should be for the welfare of future animals. Not to "laugh" because she is "using" people. What the hell does that even mean?
Your writing is so unstable, it is very hard to even muster the motivation during my free time to read on further searching for some kind of intelligent explanation or common sense.

I sincerely hope you find some sort of hobby other than posting on Internet forums because clearly you cannot handle it, you get overly invested. This should be a hobby, not what you look forward to most in the day.

We've heard your opinion about 900 hundred times now. I will tell you the same thing I tell children, just because you have an opinion, it does not make it correct or factual. You are clearly unhappy, so how has this state of mind or this particular way of communication worked out for you thus far? Time to move on...

Well, I am merely an observer and know NOTHING about any of the terms and regulations that everyone was bandying about, so I have not felt the need to enter my opinion on this whole debacle. Just wanted to say though, Siren, THANK YOU for using punctuation, spacing and actual, coherent sentences this time. THIS post was so much easier to understand than the others. I had a heck of a time even trying to figure out what the problem exactly was, and I am sure alot of others did too. I do think that perhaps if you had made that effort from the beginning, your posts would have been clearer and any misunderstandings might have been avoided. Personally, I am just sorry to see that what could have been a really great experience has turned so sour for both of you. I sincerely hope you can BOTH step back, take a deep breath, and find a way to work it out amicably. I DO think using a mediator would probably be more beneficial to both of you than dragging this through our already clogged judicial system. That said, I shall go back to minding my own business now. Thanks for listening! ;)

Siren (if you come back):

I felt the same way you do now when I first came onto this forum and I told my part MANY times. But after a while I found out that just ignoring the things you dislike (AKA just skipping over the bad posts) will help you in the long run. That is what I do. Someone says something I dont agree with, IF I feel it is really that important I get my two cents in by posting it and deal with the blunt comments when they come. But if it is just something that can be avoided all together them whats the point of getting on everyones nerves by saying something that might not even be true to begin with? Sometimes people get poor information from unreliable rescources and that just how the cookie crumbles. It was a mistake, oh well, move on Just ignore the people you dont like. Move on. After all this IS a forum and people ARE allowed to say thier opinons on things.

serene I ditto that statement

Read the Tao. It helped me get over myself.

Siren,oh my God you're back again! Oh well all I can say is that I started out trying really, really, really hard to read and make sense of your posts but just ended up with optic migraines for my efforts and my dogs have created a blizzard of hair all over the living room and you just consistently refuse to listen to the good advice of those who tried to help you and I really need a manicure oh and ITS SUPPOSED TO GET COLD here and we might have to cover the plants and my dogs will be 4, 4 & 5 this April! I forgot to say that my dogs love pizza crust for treats and we DID SO TOO tell Eileen that she needed to have her stud's OFA but his DNA wouldn't help in the show ring for AKC because he's a UKC CH!



***Edited By: pyrmom on 1/13/2008 10:03:15 PM***
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Pyrmom that was positively catty, ROTFLMFAO

lol Pyrmom, too funny.

Basset_Lover

PS: My Japanese Chin woke up with sleepers in his eyes today, should I blame the stud owner or the dam owner? Do I have a good case for a lawsuit? Or would it be a law suit? Would a law suit be something that a fashionable lawyer would wear to court?

In all seriousness, I hope Siren will begin to get a basic understanding of how painful it was to read her posts. Since mine was only 1 paragraph long and hers were each about 8 printed pages the full impact falls short, but the gist is the same.

***Edited By: pyrmom on 1/14/2008 5:28:56 AM***
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LOL!!!! Cat, darling you crack me up. lol

4.NoDogYet, if I were just put on that prescription, then that description would apply, [blah.. blah] same dosage of Vicodin for 13 years (call some of your friend who may have knowledge [...blah...blah..blah....] No effect on my Chronic pain either!!

In cases like these, I consult my SIL. She is a pharmacist at a psychiatric hospital.

Siren, as Gunny said, I think you would get great benefit of reading the Tao te Ching- Lao Tzu.

"A wonderful Buddhist saying states, "The arrow that hits the bull's eye is the result of a hundred misses." You perfect your game through adversity and failure. Lao-tzu taught that we must align with the forces of nature. Look at failure as a lesson from which you can learn. Seeing failure as an opportunity for improvement makes it more tolerable and will help you relax and figure out how to go beyond your present level of peformance."

But Cat, I totally understood your post. ROFLMFAO

I'm thinking about sueing you guys, too. I'm not sure why, yet, but if siren can come up with a get rich quick scheme, I'm sure I can, too!

"...therefore making me continue to repeat myself over and over and over again..."

I can, with 100% certainty, assure you that NO ONE is making you repeat yourself. Explain...clarify...maybe, but definitely not repeat. Sweetcheeks, we don't have that kind of time and I doubt that there's enough room on the internet for that.

Why would you keep posting the same thing over and over again?? Oh yes, now i know....“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

luvmypugglebaby

PERFECT!