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founder/lamanitis - thx a lot Purina?
I have a 28 year old Arabia gelding who fell ill in January of 2007 with founder/lamanitis
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Posted: 10:43:18 AM 7/27/2009
I have an Arabian gelding, showgun, who foundered in one foreleg and abcessed in the other three legs in january 2007. we have a healer (which i'm still skeptical of) and a special founder blacksmith working on him. he's still really sick and i can't ride him!!! i know he's hurting and he's on a frikkin million meds!!! i don't know what to do!!! every vet we took him to told us right away from looking at his x-rays that the horse was dead. when we told them he wasn't they insisted we put him down. until we finally found a GREAT vet who's work was for the animals and not the money. but now he's dead and we can't find another vet like him!!!! i don't know how to find another vet like him that lives in N.H. We're sure that he fell ill because of the purina food recall on the senior grain, which my horse had 2 bags of before we were told it had been recalled. any advice? on anything? has anyone else had problems with this company and the grain?
Posted: 11:00:44 AM 7/27/2009
anyone : (
illusionminis
Posted: 11:36:58 AM 7/27/2009
I don't know about the feed, I don't have horses anymore. I had to trade my saddle for a mortgage. When I had horses, I didn't use purina, I used a sweet feed made by someone else.

I do know that if a horse at that age is in that kind of pain, it would not still be alive in my barn. To make him suffer like that is crazy. I think you need to take your vets advice and put the poor animal to sleep. Why should he suffer like that?
BIG HEARTS IN A SMALL PACKAGE
Posted: 11:49:55 AM 7/27/2009
unfortunately i agree that he should have been put down a long time ago but i can't make that decision. because i'm a minor i do not legally own him. i've made the suggestion to uthanize him or put him in a sling many times before but i've been ignored. i'm hoping however, that someone here may have a bit of advice that would make his legal owner listen to me.
illusionminis
Posted: 12:15:23 PM 7/27/2009
Call animal control. You do have that legal right. Tell them the situation, and let them take it from there. It may help, or it may not. good luck
BIG HEARTS IN A SMALL PACKAGE
Posted: 5:45:00 AM 7/28/2009
he's far enough down the road that i don't think they'll do anything. especially if they know that we have two "special" people working on him.
catlover
Posted: 7:01:34 AM 7/28/2009
That's a bunch of bullcrap. Animal control is not going to let a horse suffer if he's as bad as you say. Either you're making the story up, or you don't care or you'd make the call. How old are you, anyway, since you say you are a minor?
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riley1
Posted: 10:27:53 AM 7/28/2009
I agree with Illusion and Catlover! If you are a minor, and not just making up this story. Just call Animal Control! They NEVER turn down a sick or injured animal that needs medical attention, especially one that is as bad as you say. If you don't make an effort to call them, then you really don't care what happens to the horse!

I know all about this recall. First off, there is no documented cases of any sick horses anywhere. Second, the problem in the recall is Aflatoxins, which can cause liver dysfunction, immune supression and neurological difficulties. This has NOTHING to do with causing Founder and an abscess.

This is personally why I do not feed a sweet feed. The only grain I give my horses is Safe Performance grain. It has no sugars, molasses, or corn. Founder usually occurs from eating too much of a rich food, so the recall probably had nothing to do with the problem. You said the horse ate 2 bags of grain? I really hope they were not eaten all at the same time. If that is the case, then that is what caused the Founder.

Animals, what animals? My children just have alot of hair!
Posted: 11:22:55 AM 7/29/2009
he's getting medical attention, but we need a vet. and no he didn't have all the grain at once. that's just crazy
Posted: 11:00:35 AM 7/31/2009
I, too, would reccemend that this horse be laid to rest, to be out of pain. Finding a vet should not be an issue, but whomever is the legal owner needs to listen to the vets and realize letting go is the best option.

I also agree that if you call Animal Control they will be able to whether.

Also, this does not sound like it is related to Purina issue.
Posted: 12:27:58 PM 8/1/2009
well we assumed that it had something to do with the grain recall because he fell ill shortly after
riley1
Posted: 5:51:11 PM 8/1/2009
Well, if you did some research on the recall, it was back in May 2008. You said he fell ill in 2007? That was a year before the recall. So it had nothing to do with the grain you gave him. Plus, the recall was made direct to the dealers, and was pulled off the shelf before anyone bought it. This is a perfect example of why you never "assume" anything!

He fell ill 2 1/2 years ago, and you are now just asking for advice? Come on.

Now you are saying he fell shortly after he ate it? You said he had ate 2 bags. How often, and how much was he given?

This horse is very old, and should not be going through this horrible pain. It is extremely cruel to let him suffer this way! If you do not call out a vet or animal control, you are just as bad as the owner for letting this go on.
Animals, what animals? My children just have alot of hair!
lpn169
Posted: 12:37:12 AM 8/5/2009
Really? 2 1/2 years and just now concerned about his pain and well being?
It was not a case of the feed IMO.

I dont care how far down the road the horse is, if you called they would check it out.
Be kinder than necessary,
for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Live simply,

Love generously,

Care deeply,

Speak kindly.......
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Posted: 5:10:49 PM 8/9/2009
I had fed my horses some senior formula from purina, too. they did fall sick but i did all i could to get them fixed. personally... i wouldnt recommend the purina brand for horses
themouse
Posted: 2:17:44 PM 8/29/2009
we had this guy near us his horse was so skinny you could count his bones. the guy rode him for a week with and didn't give him any food or water, then he went to ride him and the horse went down he couldn't hold the guy's weight. it was so sad normally i mind my own business but i called the police the humane society and animal control
and they did NOTHING . i called several times & the police went out there a couple of times but said they couldn't do anything. finally the guy took the horse & hid it.
Posted: 1:18:53 AM 8/31/2009
I'm a little confused. You say in the original post that "you" had a horse. You state that you have had several vets look at him and all recommend euthanizing him except one. Then you say you don't own him and his is down the road from you. What is your relationship to the "owner"? My recommendation would be to talk to the "owner" again and if they still refuse to take action to stop the suffering of this precious animal then you need to go to your local humane society in person with pictures of "your" horse and tell them the whole story. Or you could do even better than that. Make a "vet trip" and detour to the humane society with him instead.
lpn169
Posted: 2:58:53 AM 8/31/2009
Yes, this was a fishy story from the start. Op has not been heard from in quite some time.
Be kinder than necessary,
for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

Live simply,

Love generously,

Care deeply,

Speak kindly.......
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almostused
Posted: 4:32:20 PM 9/1/2009
Judging from your post I am going to guess that you are about 16 and you are either posting for someone else,this is a made up story, or you see this horse daily and don't know how to go about ending his suffering....2 1/2 yrs is a long time for anything to suffer you are close enough to being an adult to make an adult decission~ call or e-mail the SPCA in your area and have this matter ended once and for all.
doggiecomehome
Posted: 2:40:08 AM 9/20/2009
We use purina on all our horses and this post is a bunch of bull. Founder can be fixed by a good horse shoer. Pretty quickly/
And purina would have paid for vet bills if the problem was related to the feed just as your feed reprsentive they will tell you. But I agree with everyone else give the horse to somebody that knows what they are doing.
schoolbus gal
Posted: 2:50:01 PM 10/5/2009
Oh for heaven's sake...a 28 year old horse? I agree with the previous poster, this horse should have been put down immediately.
What is lacking in your emotional life that you would rather an aniaml suffer than face the pain of having to euthanize? When an animal is suffering to that extent, this should be an easy, yet agonizing decision. Anything less is cruelty.
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